that crazy casbah sound

Saturday, May 15, 2010

That Crazy Casbah Sound

Arizona’s quite a state. Home to that sheriff that likes putting prisoners in hot pink underwear and chain gangs, a recently single friend of mine who has no idea how to be single, and apparently intolerance. That immigration law they recently passed has been plastered all about as encouraging racial profiling, allowing police to ask anyone who looks illegal to show proof of citizenship. At least that’s what the Facebook group told me. And now the sunbelt’s pride and joy has taken things a step further, with the governor recently singing into law a bill putting strange limitations on ethnic studies classes in schools.

Last year I took a Black Media class here at OU, which focused on portrayals and involvement of black people in American media from the Reconstruction period to present. (Not) surprisingly there were a lot of white people in the class. And if you showed up, paid attention, and did decently well on the exams I imagine it would be difficult to leave the class after ten weeks thinking that racism is over and everything is hunky-dory in America (the professor actually posed the question, ‘Does Obama’s presidency mean the end of racism?’ Everyone laughed). The Arizona law forbids grade schools to teach classes geared “primarily [towards] pupils of a particular ethnic group” and also bans classes that may advocate overthrowing the U.S. government or harbor “resentment towards a race or class of people.” Oh my my.

It’s not that such “ethnic studies” classes seek to make you hate whitey and want to burn Washington, and in fact I’d bet most people don’t come out of the class like that. However, for the emotionally immature, it’s not like you can’t see why they feel that way. Contrary to what every state between Maryland and California will tell you, American history is drenched with abuse, hatred, relocation, and slaughter of minorities. It’s almost as if America’s trying to catch up to the centuries of oppression her big brothers and sisters in Europe have under their belts. Hatred breeds hatred, it’s that simple.

Unfortunately these “ethnic studies” classes are a necessary part of education in this country. There might be a Black History Month and a Hispanic History Month and what have you, but they all fall under the umbrella of White History Year. In order to gain a functioning understanding of your environment and your history you need to examine multiple viewpoints, even if they may teach you that your race has been a right proper band of cunts over the years (and I’m not just talking about whites). That’s not to say a class on Black Media is a flawless vision into the American black experience, but it’s better than your only knowledge of it coming from a day of lecture on the Civil Rights movement in your “American History, 1865-Present” class.

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Manifestos:


Josh
said…

Yeah, let's see if their new intolerance of discussing other ethnic groups is extended on St. Patrick's Day and on Christmas; after all, those are Irish and Middle-Eastern holidays and not 'real American' holidays.


BBC
said…

allowing police to ask anyone who looks illegal to show proof of citizenship.

Note that it's not restricted to just people that appear to be Spanish.

Besides, everyone that isn't from true Native American blood is an illegal, including myself.

We think that we are so special, we're not, we're not, we're just a bunch of terrorists.

Hug a Native American, screw her if you can.


eccentric recluse
said…

I am not one to be too argumentative, but I am taking a wait and see position on the AZ law. The statute is pretty specific in stating that any questioning along the lines of legal residency or immigration status only be conducted during a legal stop, arrest or detention for another purpose. I take that with enough salt for a margarita, but like I said, it seems to preclude giving local law enforcement any carte blanche to round up persons who appear to be latino, or asian, or whatever.

On the issue of racism, in my opinion, it has always existed within all humans for reasons that most of us are not big enough to fathom, it just is. As it has been with many things, we try to explain it in many ways, sometimes pretty well, (in context), sometimes in a patently stupid fashion. I see racism today as an economic (primarily) and influence issue. The color that matters is not black or white, brown or yellow, but green, and it has been for most of American history. The greener one is, the more acceptable one will be to all political, ethnic and religious factions.


BBC
said…

Some day we will all just be some shade of brown, get the fuck over it.


People in the Sun
said…

God forbid a class teaches you anything other than white elite history. They basically say that the African American Literature class I took would be a bad thing… I know some people there, and I hope they leave before a God-sent tornado flattens the whole state.


Doctorboogaloo
said…

Texas has the right idea:

Just teach the shit your grandparents believed.


Orhan Kahn
said…

USA!USA!USA!


Nashe^
said…

I can't wait to be a tourist in the US one day.


Imperador Hazemorder
said…

As a person who doesn't believe in the existence of race and finds nationalism repugnant I agree that targeted ethnic studies in highschool is ridiculous, something that should be legitimately thrown out. Tome Home said that the history of oppression and hate in the United States, which should include slavery, Japanese-American internment and misogyny is taught in the general social studies class. It's been a long time since I've been in high school but as I recall I did learn about the near genocide of the natives of this continent and other injustices endured by many human "sub-groups".

If you want to spend your money learning about Negroes in Hollywood in college, more power to you, but why don't we just agree to focus on reading, science and math in highschool. History is important and it's goal should be to be balanced and unbiased. The "minorities" like my family (they consider themselves Irish-American Catholics) are just going to have to except that cross burning by the KKK might not show up in the history of the world.

It's obviously unjust to require people with accents to have proof of citizenship. If there is compulsory identification for one, you have to do it for all, anything else spits in the face of equality and is profiling. However, I'm not fully against a national ID and think it would help law enforcement. Granted it's not the same as a drivers license because one can opt out of driving but not being. Having it mandatory to carry would really put a dent on days at the speedo beach.


BBC
said…

Speedo beach? What is it with wearing clothes at a nice warm beach?


secret agent woman
said…

Of course it is necessary to have ethnic studies, as it is still necessary to have women's studies. It makes me a little crazy that people will insistent that everything is equal and fair now.


billy pilgrim
said…

i'd take an ethnic studies course if there were lots of hot chicks in it. otherwise i'd rather take a good capitalistic commerce course.


Imperador Hazemorder
said…

What infuriates me is that there is no yellow hermaphrodite studies class.


unokhan
said…

best description of white privilege ever:


Just as politics cannot be separated from life, life cannot be separated from politics. People who consider themselves to be non-political are no different; they've already been assimilated by the dominant political culture–they just don't feel it any more
–Pramoedya Ananta Toer


Imperador Hazemorder
said…

"white privilege"

seriously makes me want to puke. if you think that white privilege is not being prejudged by idiots you're an idiot to think those idiots won't be judging you on things other than your skin tone. Living in a sea of morons is a no win situation, whining just hurts my ears and serves to strengthen irrational beliefs.

Come on people. Let's work together to crush the concept of race. You're being just as ignorant supporting it as the ignoramuses that latch onto it as a main part of their identity.


Raspootin
said…

In order to gain a functioning understanding of your environment and your history you need to examine multiple viewpoints, even if they may teach you that your race has been a right proper band of cunts over the years

Well said.

and IH – unfortunately people will always discriminate whether it is by color, by size, by age, by accent or by intelligence. I believe that it is a human trait that will never be extinguished or bread out.


Imperador Hazemorder
said…

Inequality resulting from prejudice is not a trait, it is a learned behavior that's reinforced by those in society who take collective identity for granted. What we can do to minimize it is to treat each other as one human family, which includes not teaching that "your race" has been a proper band of cunts.


Raspootin
said…

Personality Trait: IH.

A personality TRAIT can be deemed positive or negative.

Obviously I was not talking about a physical trait.

The purpose of teaching history is to know the past and then how it affects the present and the future. So within such lessons
a person can learn that pretty much no matter what your heritage it is likely that some cuntiness went along with it.

I think that Woozie might have been being a bit glib with the cunt remark? No ?


I'M
said…

Exodus 20:5-6

I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.

I want my white man money dammit!

Heritage is a bunch of bullshit. Religion and Race are two peas in a pod.


eccentric recluse
said…

best string of comments in a long time.

we are all human, and therefore imperfect, none of us perceives things exactly like another, so sooner or later, opinions diverge and prejudice is born. as we live in a world with too few resources, our perception of what's at stake is sometimes disproportionate to a situation, and our prejudice becomes an overriding factor in our decisions and actions. we can't help this in our biology, we can only allow for it in life, and that is a talent, not a skill.

maybe someday.


Raspootin
said…

IH

I know we are all homo sapiens. However I would say Race and Heritage go hand in hand not religion and race.

Heritage is cultural or perhaps visual characteristics that one identifies with ones ancestors or perhaps place of birth – race is the same sort of thing, where by, how you visually look; one can place your heritage; to the extent you are Middle Eastern, Asian perhaps not African American but perhaps African etc.

Religion is a total non factor (don t ask don t tell standards). It would be hard to distinguish a catholic from a protestant from a Buddhist from a Hindu by just looking across a room at a person.

Therefore, I do think that race and heritage; for heritage/race do exist even if you choose to not recognize race outside of the subset of Homo sapiens, as defining factors in how people tend to categorize each other. Is it correct? Well sure as long as you are not categorizing with the intent to discriminate; and I contend people do categorize with the intent to discriminate with regard to race, heritage, age, weight, good looking /not good looking, rich./poor grammatically well spoken / not – college educated / not. Shoot I could go on for pages –

Discrimination is a human failing; but also something that defines a certain personality trait of humans.

PS. E.R. I agree whole heartedly with you; however I doubt we will see a change in our life spans.


Raspootin
said…

Just because I feel like I have not commented enough already :)))

I lost track of my initial point. Multi-ethnic classes should be taught so that we have in at least some small way given an opportunity for people who will never go out of this country, who will never go out of their fricking 30 mile radius, an insight to other people and cultures.

How many Americans would you suppose think all "Araabs" are Jihad bad guys coming to nuke us?

Education, and I am not saying just formal education, is a step towards enlightenment.

You can not effect a change if people do not see further than the end of their nose.


Imperador Hazemorder
said…

JEW talkin' to me?

there are people who believe in pink unicorns, therefore pink unicorns exist. go on with your bad reasoning self.

"Certainly classical “race” contains some medically relevant information in some cases, as for example “white” as opposed to “African American” if the contrast is between Finland and West Africa, but not if it is a contrast between a “white” Mediterranean and an “Asian” Indian. There is a confusion here between race and ancestry."

"But as genetics developed and it became possible to characterize the genetic differences between individuals and populations it became apparent, that every population of every species in fact differs genetically to some degree from every other population. Thus, every population is a separate “geographic race” and it was realized that nothing was added by the racial category. The consequence of this realization was the abandonment of “race” as a biological category during the last quarter of the twentieth century, an abandonment that spread into anthropology and human biology. However, that abandonment was never complete in the case of the human species. There has been a constant pressure from social and political practice and the coincidence of racial, cultural and social class divisions reinforcing the social reality of race, to maintain “race” as a human classification. If it were admitted that the category of “race” is a purely social construct, however, it would have a weakened legitimacy. Thus, there have been repeated attempts to reassert the objective biological reality of human racial categories despite the evidence to the contrary."

http://raceandgenomics.ssrc.org/Lewontin/


BBC
said…

What infuriates me is that there is no yellow hermaphrodite studies class.

I don't have any problems with race, as long as they're not idiots and decent looking. My first wife was half Native American.

As for hermaphrodite, I'd kiss my tits if I had some.


billy pilgrim
said…

i think bbc makes an excellent point.

i'd like to see a primordial soup ethnic studies class. of course we'd need a special black primordial soup class.


BBC
said…

It's not that such "ethnic studies" classes seek to make you hate whitey.

Fuck, I hate whites and I am white.


Omar
said…

You'll appreciate
this guy then.


long dead gone
said…

BBC, you are not white, you are ashen.

What happened to the owner of this blog writing a report on the Stones catalog?

I'm tired of reading about depression and cocks.


BBC
said…

I'm tired of reading about depression and cocks.

You have a problem with cocks? Go gay. I'll trade auto repairs for sex but I would need a free sample first to see if you are as good as you think you are.


Woozie
said…

I was unaware I was ever to write a report on the Stones catalog. That doesn't sound like anything I would agree to do in the first place.


Anonymous
said…

BBC, you seem to have forgotten your Aricept again. I would be wary of a fee sample from anyone who would give you one, even your favorite pocket pal.


liberal supporter
said…

Wow, the cheap drugs online spammers have impressive technology now. See how that bot managed to weave someone's name from here into their pitch? Still needs work though, it forgot to put in a link.


BBC
said…

BBC, you seem to have forgotten your Aricept again. I would be wary of a fee sample from anyone who would give you one, even your favorite pocket pal.

And you are a fucking pussy for posting as anonymous. And don't worry about my mind, it's getting along just fine.


BBC
said…

My pocket pussy is offended that anyone thinks it could give me something bad.

BTW, you idiots, I do get offers of sex, I've just gotten wise enough to avoid those relationships.


BBC
said…

About the oil spill problem in the gulf…..

Anyway, has your radar picked up on the fact that there may be a bigger worry down there?

Methane gas explosions have at times caused area wide mass extinctions and there is a lot of it down there waiting to escape.

If the right conditions play out the whole gulf area could blow up. If that happens I'm sure we'll know about it without getting it from the news, we'll feel it here.

If I lived anywhere near the gulf I would damn sure be getting far away from it.


BBC
said…

But I suppose that everyone will be told there is no chance of such an event happening, like they were told that drilling at 5000 feet was safe. I don't know what the odds are but there are odds of it happening and some things I just don't gamble on.


Omar
said…

From potty mouthed raver of all things tits and pussy to erudite and rational observer of potential environmental calamities. You go girl.


BBC
said…

Omar, enjoy your trip.


liberal supporter
said…

Methane gas explosions have at times caused area wide mass extinctions and there is a lot of it down there waiting to escape.
The Permian-Triassic extinction event was a lot more than "area wide".

You think we're coming up on the Quaternary-Nomorehomosapiens extinction event?


BBC
said…

A man was shot in the testicles Sunday afternoon after a gun in his waistband accidentally discharged, police said.

The man was shopping at the Lowe's hardware store in Lynnwood around 12:30 p.m. when the gun went off, said Shannon Sessions with Lynnwood Police.


Aw nuts!!!!!!!!! Cleanup in lumber.

You think we're coming up on the Quaternary-Nomorehomosapiens extinction event?

I can only hope.


Omar
said…

lol


eccentric recluse
said…

tis particular post has come a long ways, from a study of intolerance, (as seen from various intolerant perspectives) to cocks, to the omnipresent Stones, to a geologic fart-fest.

have a good week everybody…


BBC
said…

Hey, I'm going camping for a few days, the rest of you monkeys are in charge while I'm gone. Good luck with that.


Omar
said…

No new posts since May 15 and now were getting camping announcements from hills. I'm thinking Tome readers who don't share the blessing of following your somewhat boring life over on Facebook are entitled to a little bore-age massage here. Update the populace!

WV: berst

It was the best of times, it was the.. berst of times!! You stupid monkey! …


Southide Rabbitslayer
said…

facebook killed the blog star.

badheadcheese


liberal supporter
said…

Facebook?

Soon after reading 1984 in high school, I had a dream along similar lines as the story (probably while studying for the test on it). In the dream, the secret police were everywhere, and always on the lookout for those who did not love Big Brother. These secret police were easy to spot, since they all carried a book of mug shots. I recall it being called a "face book"! This was before the internet was generally available, and I was just making up a name like the other newspeak words in the book.
Since I also had an economics course, I wondered about the large amount of resources required to build and keep these face books up to date. The ubiquitous spy cameras (even within apartments) made me wonder how the State could pay for all this stuff and not go broke. At the time, I assumed the endless wars were fictitious so the money supposedly going to the wars was actually going to support the surveillance apparatus.


Little did I know that one day people would voluntarily prepare detailed dossiers on themselves, and would carry a location tracking device everywhere they went. They even use the tracking device to update their dossiers and explain what they are doing!